Sunday, 14 April 2019

" A MULTI FACETED JEWEL "

" Dave what does this mean " I hear you say ! Well this week`s post has many sides to it not just one particular theme.

" ALAS POOR SY I KNEW HER WELL "

Originally this week I was hoping to post up a lot of Star Wars painting, but Sy met with an accident after almost being finished, and I lost my mojo to keep painting the rest. Having spent the week working on other stuff I felt the need  to paint some Star Wars bits again, so my mojo has returned.

A sad and sorry state of affairs


" THESE ARN'T THE DROIDS YOUR LOOKING FOR ! "

These R5 Units were painted before Sy met her demise, I wanted to paint some more unusual colour schemes than the regular white with the odd colour. Was pleased with how these turned out and I like the grimy look on them, and think the conversion turned out well.


" I SHALL REACH VALHALLA ALL SHINY AND CHROME "

Last week I managed to finish these two post apocalyptic cars, I wanted a very rusty colour scheme with faded paint. 


 Here is how to achieve this look :

Step 1. Basecoat the panel work with Rhinox Hide

Step 2. When dry, sponge on Skrag Brown, don't go too heavy as you want to see some of the base colour showing through. To achieve this, once I have got the paint loaded on the sponge, I dab it on the pallet until it starts to leave the right amount of paint.

Step 3. Repeat the process of step 2 with Fire Dragon Bright ( orange) but go a lot lighter than in step 2.

Step 4.  Pick a contrasting colour to the brown ( You can see I've used a light blue and light green) And dab the paint on in patches with the point of the brush, you can add as much as you want, I've gone quite minimal as I didn't imagine having much time to maintain their paintwork, and chemicals in the atmosphere would probably eat into it.

Step 5. Using brown and black washes dab over the paintwork, this will give you a good weathered look to the paint and also it will look like there is more rust coming through.

" WHAT MAKES YOU TICK ?"

In a recent article by Steve he talked about what gaming meant to him, and how the gaming was the most important part. I can fully appreciate and understand his point of view, however for me it was always about the painting and modelling first and gaming second. So who is right and who is wrong ? Both and neither, as it is down to the individual on what makes them happy, if you're happy to play with unpainted models, then don't worry about what anyone else is saying and enjoy your gaming. If you want to take your time and get all the models painted , then enjoy this part of the hobby as you like. We are all different in our approach, as long as we can accept our differences there is no problem!

Now, knowing I like to play with nicely painted miniatures, this was why I came up with the game "Death Match" as you didn't need a lot of models to be able to play, so gave the best of both worlds I could do some nicely painted figures and game my heart out, without taking up a massive amount of time . . . . . . . . . . . . 

" LET THE GAMES BEGIN "

Recently I sent my display models for Death Match to Steve and Hils, details on this will come to light in a later post. This means I needed to paint up another set for my upcoming show, the first of which is Vallatrix the alien in charge of the games commission and his two concubines. Now in gaming terms he doesn't have anything to do with the gaming but is a background model, and when the 3D arena is finished can be used as one of the many crowd models to sit around the arena or on his own floating dais.


All three models were painted with a glazing technique over strong contrasting colours. I'm planning to add to these models with a whole entourage, " WHY" I hear you say, well that leads me into this next part where I will hand you over to Steve to tell the tale.....


Dave

Thanks Dave.

Oh gosh, where to begin.

At the start I suppose. I first heard of Dave through a situation that made me smile.  Another person I knew had recently befriended him (and Dave, being the good chap that he is, ended up making a few custom miniatures for him), and in a private conversation I had, it was sort of like "shhhh, confidential", and this in turn caused a memory to surface.. which made me smile, because it reminded me of one time (years earlier in my life), when I lived with a girlfriend in a permanent mobile home; we had a neighbouring couple living in a falling apart van who used to argue like cat and dog, all hours of the night and day. Oh Lord, the times I used to have to bang on their door and all would go quiet within while I`d yell at them through the closed portal to "BE QUIET," and I`d see the female half of the couple next day and she`d pass me on the trailer park road and put her finger to her lips and whisper: "shhhhhh, its confidential." 

So the whole connection just appealed to my warped sense of humour for some reason.


So I kept hearing the name Dave Stone, Dave Stone, who is this Dave bloody Stone, I kept asking myself. He sure didn`t come into TGC and I wasn`t seeing him about on most of the blogs I visited. When he did comment on posts I spotted, he seemed ordinary enough, friendly, talkative. But the name rang a bell, but I didn`t know from where. It was only after Hillers started talking to this guy (or maybe he started talking to her?) that I finally made the connection. I knew him from working at Games Workshop, years before. I was a lowly writer and a shadow promotions (blurb) designer and freelance magazine article writer.. as well as Editor of "Wargames Journal" at the same time. While Dave was a GW manager executive.. and got to tread the green carpet at GW Nottingham HQ along with all the nobs and fawning hoi major polloi LOL. We both knew the industry and through successive conversations, by now taken to the phone, where we would engage in the most amazingly long multi hour phone chatsabout everything under the sun,  and bit by bit, through natural progression a plan was formed: what Dave would call, "our mad scheme to take over the world." 

me...

... and the indomitable Hillers

I think it was back then that it was first decided I was going to create a new pro website for his business ~ Wargames Terrain Workshop. It also soon became clear to me that twinning my humble efforts at TGC with Dave was a desirous thing to do, and thus the nucleus of what was to follow started to take shape.

I was to work with Dave and his lovely wife Sarah, on turning his brainchild (an unpolished game  called Death Match) into a tidy and professional game. Now, the game as it was... truly had nothing terribly wrong with it, it simply lacked spit and polish... and I KNEW the scope for turning the game blurb... the in game background and history... was immense. and I was impressed by what was already presented, mostly cool original ideas created by Dave`s wife, supplemented by cool interior artwork from Dave`s Mother ~ Brenda.

So when Dave asked me to check the game out, I said "sure," and assured him I would get the guys at our local clubs to play test it all properly, and meanwhile I started taking copious notes, and watching the many, manyplay-testing sessions with a seriously keen eye. A month later I got back to him with a long, long list of findings, and he said  "great, would you like to re-write the book and add all these cool new ideas to the rules, and turn it into more than the current sum of its parts. So I said "yes, love to."

But I knew it wouldn't just be a re-write. Death Match needed to maintain its integrity, and so using what was already written, I just needed to create a scaffold... a foundation if you like, around an existing main frame, and voila! The new Death Match game was conceived, slowly over the following weeks and months.

It was faithful to all the hard work Dave, Sarah and their team had put into the thing, yet new enough, and with a face lift just cool enough to turn the whole thing into a vibrant new experience.

But there was just one problem. I didn't have any of the Death Match models. All our play testing had been done using facsimiles (simply not the same), so guess what: Dave sent over his entire range of show case cabinet models, so that Hils and I could carry on playing and fine tuning the rules. I later discover the models were not only his special showcase ones, but also his own personal set *gulp*  and oh man, these models are simply to die for. Dozens and dozens of pro painted Death Match miniatures (some of the best painting I`ve ever seen), and on top of that, he included a duplicate set of - everything.. in unpainted state, so I could `ave a go` myself and equip, pose, and paint duplicate additions in any way I liked... at my leisure. This huge parcel was a kingly gift, and a sign of the commitment we had forged, and the pledge to work together to try make this game as great as we both felt is could and should be.

a pair of intrepid hunters track down a Pitilliad and attempt 
to capture it for the arena.

Progress has proceeded so well in fact, it's gone well beyond the expected bounds, and already we are planning the layout and sculpting fresh designs for a new range of Death Match miniatures for an expansion, which will be due out at.... shhhh its confidential. Dave and Hils have been beaver-ing away making concept art, sketches and so forth, and emails have been shooting back and forth as the first of the new designs are being conceived, artistically framed, and thrown back and forward and up the flag pole to see who salutes it. 

Lord Vallatrix, two female concubines (a Traventi and a purring feline alien) , and a servant `goader` watch the court below.. from upon their floating dais high overhead.

Dave then has the horrendously hard job of rendering everything to actuality, and thus da daaa!!! the first new expansion Death Match Miniatures will hit the preview shelf. No not a kickstarter, but (by then) no doubt, properly displayed on a new and yummy looking Wargames Terrain Website.


The living proof. Dave working away on new moulds and new figure sculpts, at his company Wargames Terrain Workshop.

But there`s more. Dave and Sarah rather like the idea of creating another `sister` game to run alongside this one. The background for Death Match is too detailed and (quite frankly) too good just to be left as `fluff,` and so I am designing a brand new game... a skirmish game, which utilises all the miniatures and components from Death Match, and then takes the adventure in an entirely new direction, in the form of an integrated table top miniatures game. This project will also be supported and supplemented by a full range of new miniatures, which will allow the gamer to immerse fully into the amazing world of Dave and Sarah`s unique creation. One of the things I was keen to get them to allow me to do, was to take the very world specific material that existed (before I got my hands on it all) and turn the thing into a generic experience, which any gamer could fit into his existing game... whether that be Star Wars, Doctor Who, Judge Dredd, John Carter From Mars, Mad Max, Resident Evil, or even a Dungeons and Dragons type world, and literally use the game as a sandbox for creating your own gaming needs. The original background (invented by Sarah Stone) revolving around Lord Vallatrix and the planet Traventi  still exists in full. But anyone reading the (much expanded) rule book is free to set their own games up in any world or place or time they choose... in other words, its left open for them to decide how they want to play.

The Skirmish game will most likely be officially released at Salute next year, where Hils and myself  will be attending and demonstrating the game in the main arena.. showcasing Death Match, plus the first proper Death Match expansion (which I can tell you, is really shaping up to be something rather special) . But also we will be announcing the new Skirmish game (title still under wraps) on the same day: so it will be an exciting time for sure. So maybe Dave actually will have the Wargames Terrain Workshop t-shirts designed for us all by then after all which is sort of a running joke among us at the moment *wink*

Best of all, the special dice used for Death Match will double up for use with the skirmish game: Dave's been talking of making these for ages (but everyone has always had to make do with ordinary dice with straight numbers to represent the many unique symbols used in the game OR place sticky labels onto the faces of the dice themselves... not an ideal solution). Well I`m a moan-y pushy git, and I have never once let up on him; and da daaaa!!! yep, tired of my campaigning and bellyaching, Dave`s actually designed..made.. and cast the first of these rather cool dice sets: so the game enhancement is now easier to immerse into than ever before.

A Lava Salamander... kinda hot, right!

All in all there`s never been a better time to jump onto the wagon and join a great game, which is currently being developed, updated, and improved for even smoother play: with extensive new ranges of miniatures and cool interactive terrain being created all the time, for that ever immersive table top feel and enjoyment.

Some of my painted Death Match beauties, sitting in one of my two prize possession showcase glass cabinets.

I have heard the game being described as resembling Roman Gladiators in space. Hmmmm, this would certainly be a rather limiting view of a game with a far wider potential than that: a bit like those terrible you tube reviews on Dice Tower, where Tom Vasel and Sam Healey buy a game and play it once, yet feels qualified to deliver a 40 minute speech about how the game works and why people should either buy it or not buy it. As anyone knows, to understand a game properly takes many, many, many play throughs as players learn to understand and digest the many components and nuances which comprise the thing. And Death Match has so many options for skilful and tactical play, it would take a lot of playing to understand its labyrinthine complexities (you can even equip each hero miniature individually.. allowing for great modelling customisation in a campaign game, as you watch your hero(es) grow through continuous adventuring). There`s also full rules for playing the game entirely solo, so that`s a seriously cool addition - I truly believe, nowadays, any game which doesn't allow for direct solitaire mode of play, is missing the mark by a full measure.

Two Pitilliads, one with passive blue markings, the other showing (angry state) red attack mode markings. 

No, Death Match can be played as a simple gladiator type arena skirmish. But if you expand that image just a little bit, suddenly you have Clone Wars era Princess Amidala, Anakin Skywaker, and Obi-Wan Kenobi.. chained to the pillars in the Petranaki Arena with wild beasts and terrible monsters let loose to hunt them down and gobble them up. Or you might like to imagine a game set in the terrible harsh world of "Mad Max and the Thunder Dome," or the arena scene in Edgar Rice Burroughs "John Carter From Mars." What about the cool post apocalyptic world of Rutger Hauer`s "Salute of the Jugger" or.... oh wow, yesssss..... this whole thing would fit seamlessly into Judge Dredd`s Cursed Earth: somewhere out in the endless toxic wastelands maybe?  So you see, the possibilities really are boundless. You just have to use your imagination, and fit the game into your own preferred world ethos. Death Match would even fit into Dungeons and Dragons ("Empire of the Petal Throne" ... "Dwimmermount" ... "Gamma World" ... "Dark Sun" or "Journey to the Barrier Peaks" spring immediately to mind).

Two human (a male and a female) gladiators.


Hopefully see you guys at Salute, where Hils and I will be demonstrating everything (on the stand next to Dave) including all the new WTW goodies to be announced that day (we`ll be running public participation games at stages throughout the day(s) as well). And I`m still hoping to rope Dave`s wife into joining us on the table for a few table top adventures: though she`ll most likely have slipped off somewhere.. shopping with Hillers on Bond Street haha.

In the evening.... Curry mmmmmm. **looks at Dave and Jez**

A Scabendi and a Ceratid, two alien hunter gladiators from the unique range of Death Matchminiatures.
.... there be monsters
... and flying frickin` sky sharks

But I`m flying over in a few weeks to see himself and Mrs herself, to exchange goodies and ideas, and generally conquer the galaxy for a few days... well, at least on the gaming table.

I plan to beat him at Death Match **grins**


"Beast Hunt"


a teaser snippet from the still unfinished.. still being play tested Death Match Skirmish game.



The beast ran... ran as it had never run before. Broad sticks splintered beneath its heavy feet, driven deep into gritty soil. Branches whipped its face; scrub scraped at its calves above its claws, raising welts that remained all but invisible against skin tough enough to suggest an agonizing cracked sunburn. Or at least it would have, had he been human. The beast was a  Horned Hominid: an aggressive male of the species: and the skilled group of hunters pursuing the beast through the forest undergrowth... wanted it for Vallatrix`s grand arena!


 The creature`s eyes darted frantically left and right, seeking any possible escape, and its huge pudgy claws snagged on overhanging boughs and left a rain of dismembered leaves falling in his wake. He crashed directly through the trees where he could, snapping branches and saplings without slowing, darting around the larger trunks where even his prodigious  strength proved insufficient to clear his path. And still he heard the sounds of pursuit,  drawing ever nearer.



The trees were not tightly packed here, and those who followed him could fit between and flit around far more easily than he. Damn it all, he hadnʼt even wanted this! Heʼd done nothing wrong...  wanted to live, and live free.

Finally, too tired to run any further the hulking beast spun, putting his back to the thickening copse: a narrow forest trail.. little more than a track, separated the trees on either side. A split rail fence further obstructed anyone from reaching him at a full tilt, and in the distance, an old derelict settlement could just be made out through a clearing in the trees. Even if the creature couldn`t keep this enemy from coming up behind, the difficult ground would at least make sufficient noise to warn of their approach. The beast flexed his fingers. It was a hideous thing, all bulk and bulging grey muscles: and massive jagged teeth, designed less for battle than for butchery.



He didn’t have to wait long. The first of the hunters crashed from the sparser foliage in a tangle of leaves and steel. With a wild bellow of fear and anger, the Horned Hominid  hauled himself in a desperate charge. The Ceratid hunter (first to reach its hunt) flailed wildly with its sleep drug dripping blade.. hoping to score a slash across the beasts rump. But the Horned beast was quick, perhaps quicker than it had ever been before in its life terror and anger egging it on to desperation. The Honinid avoided the hunter` swipe with death defying speed, and smashed the alien aside like a rag doll.


 The Ceratid hunter crashes into a wall, and is out of the fight: mewing pitifully at its many broken bones.


But it was no use! The beast was now cut off, as the rest of the hunters closed in on all sides.


An Exuvium hunter climbed a high tree, and stood swaying in the treetop canopy for a moment. Then leapt with all its might, right onto the back of the beast below.






My heavy metal D20 saw the hunted beast out manoeuvred, out initiatived, and out run by its hunters.


if the creature could only have managed to get to the safety of the ruins, it would have had a fair chance of engaging its pursuers peace-meal, and might even have managed to escape and flee the fight relatively unmolested. A rolled natural 20 - sealed the monster`s fate.


Within a minute, the beast was slowing, entangled in mesh webs; and came crashing to the ground, where it was quickly subdued by the hunter`s mind numbing electro prods.

The hunters had a new beast for Lord Vallatrix`s games.




Article by Dave & Steve



















100 comments:

  1. That`s it. First Death Match order is going in this week (probably send it to my sister and pick it up there when I`m over next month). This post has convinced me, I want in. I had no idea there was so much going on with this game, and certainly no idea what is was really all about. I`d heard the Roman glad` thing too and I have to say, I was really put off by that analogy. Yet hearing it presented in this way, yes, oh brother yes, I want in.

    Will see you guys at Salute for sure. Save a chair for me. I`ll bring my boys for a game or three. Doubtless, leaving Dave and Sarah`s stand with an empty wallet LOL.


    My heart wepts for you Dave, uuuughhh!! to lose Sy Snootles to an accident, is so sad it hurts. The droids are fantastic - are they for sale yet. If so I`ll add a couple to the order? Those vehicles are incredible, but perhaps best of all, the painting on them is second to none. Doubt I could match those, but the tutorial is VERY useful. Thanks for that. Kingly collection indeed, the Death Match range (very generous too). But I know Steve, and he will treasure it all. He`s like that. And if it helps make the game better then hell yeah.

    Best article I`ve ever read on the blog by far. Exciting from the word go, right through to the last word. Magazine standard, proving TGC goes from strength to strength. Well done ALL you guys, and congrats and best of luck with Death Match and all its new additions to look forward to. You just made a new customer and fan. Best thing ever happened to the place. You guys teamed up. Long live the King.

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    1. Thank's Dave for the kind comments, it has been great working with Steve and Hils, and the concepts were working on go from strength to strength through multiple inputs and ideas bouncing back and forth.
      Unfortunately can't sell the droids because of licensing mores the pity.
      Losing Sy was a blow but over it now and ready to paint another.
      I know Steve likes the collection I sent over, he tells me nearly every day ! LOL
      You and your sons are most welcome to come and have a game or 3.
      Joining forces with Steve and Hils has been a pleasure and meant so much more has been realised than I thought possible
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    2. Dave I REALLY like those DM figures you sent over. Did I mention that?
    3. Once or twice mate ! ROFL
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    4. thanks Dave, thank you very much. It will be a pleasure a delight and an honour to sit and >> lose << a few games at Salute. The boys are very well behaved and respectful. I`ll finish modelling my 1765/1783 sailing ships so my fleet can valiantly defend against the French blockade at Wavre bay, and after that I have determined I want to `buy into` your impressive looking game. I`m grateful to you all for showing it to me. I was wondering what to do next. A bloke`s got to have a project after all.
    5. Indeed Dave, as they say " The Devil makes work for idle hands " so having a project on the go is never a bad thing. Would love to see the ships when you've finished them
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    6. No problem, I`ll sent you photos via email or something when they`re done. I`ve been looking at your website Dave (little hard to navigate but I got there in the end - maybe its just me), I was struck by the desire to see something currently missing from your DM. Spectators and spectator stands. For me this element would be essential for the visual appeal of a finished game set up; as a famous comedian once said as a catch phrase "I`d buy that."
    7. Yes Steve is working on a new website to make things easier, as for the seating and crowds already in progress Dave as it was something I wanted from the start
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  2. i have not heard of this game but i think it makes me very excited. where do I buy it and who makes and sells it please.

    the star wars droids are so nice. i want these too. but the cars are perhaps best of all.

    sorry about sy, that`s just terrible. id be crying i think.
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    1. Thanks Luke you can find the game at www.wargamesterrainworkshop. co.uk which is my company.
      The droids were converted R2 units.
      Glad you liked the cars on a bit of a post apocalyptic kick at the moment.
      Must admit to sulking for a day after Sy broke
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    2. OOO YOU MAKE THE GAME. youre david stone, i had no idea. im talking to a celebrity all this time. you are amazing and even more reason for me to save my pennies like crazy and buy this thing now. i want an autographed copy so i can say to all my friends wow
    3. Thank you Luke, that made my day ! Don't think of myself as a celebrity, just a hobbyist who shares his ideas with others. Will happily sign your copy for you though
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  3. You guys have done it again. Will you NEVER stop impressing me. I want to write so much about everything I have just read, but time is against me and I fear I cannot {{work work **sigh**}} but very remiss of me if I didn`t at least make some comment, just a sign of appreciation for a truly GREAT post.

    I want to buy this game now. I will buy it {{possibly at Salute, if I can get there next time}} and will place my order when I can.

    The Star Wars droids are simply divine and heavenly. They ooze charm and personality, as all good Star Wars mechanoids should. Those rusty old cars look like something from Stephen King`s "Christine" they`re so atmospheric, and poor you, having to.. what, oh gosh.. paint your whole collection again, oh my. **smiles very softly** that was sweet. I had to stuff my hand in my mouth when I saw Sy, that`s so terrible it`s an actual tragedy :(

    Best article I can remember reading here. Made my day.

    Got to dash, byeeeee
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  4. Hi Tarot, great to hear from you, as I know your very busy with work. Glad you like the game, and when your ready we'll sort you out a set.
    Thank you on the droids, and the cars, really wanted to give a rendition with lots of character.
    70 % through on the repaint, so not going too badly, and Sy was a terrible loss but she will return !
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  5. This is the hobby I knew and loved. The reason I got into it all years ago now. The friendship and good will, the modesty (I didnt miss that, when asked who made the game you just said "this link" and didnt name yourself. You earned respect from me there my dear friend). The hobby has no room for egos, for jealousies, for grudges or for resentments. Its a hobby we should all share and enjoy, joyous of the fact we are all one big family of human beings, none of us better than the next. I dont know why, or how but this post of yours Dave and you Stevie, has somehow cemented this feeling in me and me, and made me feel very happy in general. Like feeling you get at Christmas, peace and good will to all.

    I love this post.
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    1. can I have that fiver you owe me now Hils?
    2. No bu**er off, I`ll make you an apple pie instead.
    3. mmmmm, deal >>chuckles<<
    4. Thank's Hils, I always looked at the hobby as fun, grudges and resentments have no place in FUN ! I think a true artist let's his work speak for him, rather than bragging, I'm always surprised by the great comments people give and never really know what to say other than thank you.
      Glad we could give you that happy feeling Hils
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  6. Good God you`re a braver man than me. You`d have seen sad, sad tears if I`d witnessed a master figure I`d taken so long lovingly creating, and then found it destroyed. Looking carefully (I blew up the photo to look) it l-o-o-k-s kinda fixable mate... can you?
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    1. No that one is dead, but luckily I took a mould as my hands are getting worse and have a tendency to drop things it's always a good idea to have a back up !
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    2. enviable position, never to lose anything special and be able to duplicate again later (for repeats like Concubines and Vallatrix Guards for example). Obviously not just for professional reasons, but as a hobbyist as well, the benefits are boundless. Can we come and be your neighbours *smiles sweetly*
    3. You would be most welcome to be neighbours , we may not get much work done but would be great fun
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    4. LOL, so true. It would be a mad play house of "Caractacus Potts" "Truly Scrumptious" and mad `hairy bikers` *grins mischievously* inventions and wacky ideas would flow like honey. Love it ^^
    5. Sounds awesome how soon until you move in ?
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    6. already started packing, Stevie`s just nipped down town to buy the lard to cover ourselves with for the big swim.

      *splosh!*
    7. Excellent I'll put the kettle on ready !
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  7. Terrific posting, best yet by far. I didn't realise having twice met Dave that his rising star had reached such heady heights as celebrity status ;-) Love the idea of skirmish version, although I'm far more interested in the ruddy dice currently!! :-)

    "Salute 2018" sounds better than ever, as I was looking forward to seeing Dave there (although I hope to meet up for our painting session beforehand first), but now two of the three Emerald Isle Musketeers will be there too!! How is anyone going to ask anyone about the "Death Match" rules though if Steve is running the table? He won't let them get a word in edgeways!! Ha Ha Hah!!!
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    1. I was unaware of the status too mate, must be a Z Lister ! LOL
      The skirmish version will allow a lot more diversity, and a lot more concepts to be added, not long know on the dice, should be available as of Monday.
      This Salute should be the best yet, and yes hopefully we will have got our paint jam on before then
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    2. {{How is anyone going to ask anyone about the "Death Match" rules though if Steve is running the table? He won't let them get a word in edgeways!!}}


      Its called gaffer tape Simon **winks**
  8. Hey, nice story a,d lovely figures here, I do like this beautiful Lava Salamander, and th rust effects on the apocalyptic cars...and on the caravan as well!
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    1. Thank you Phil, the Lava Salamander was a fun one to come up with, just sat pondering what a creature would look like if it lived in lava pools, and matching the colours to it's surroundings seemed to make sense for camouflage.
      The rust effect has been something I've been playing with for a while and keep toying with, always room for improvement as people suggest new techniques I can try. The caravan shows real rust nicely
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    2. Salut! friend Phil. Always so lovely to see you here. Glad you enjoyed the visit. Yes that Salamander is incredible isnt it. It makes me smile with pleasure every time I look at it (did I mention how much I loooove them Dave?). As for the rusty apoc cars, they`re on my `can`t leave without one of each` hit list.. when I fly over to WTW in November.

      À tout à l'heure :-)
    3. >>> I do like the rust effects on the caravan!<<<

      Yes I was particularly pleased with how the van turned out, one of my better attempts I think ^^
    4. Looks so realistic mate it could be a photograph of a real one
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  9. I've been waiting for this anouncement for a while, as I m-a-y just have already known about this. But, true to the trust placed in me (muxh more reliable than Wormtail) I kept "vewy, vewy quiet".

    This is splendid news and as I was planning on attending Salute anyway, expect me to be hanging around a fair bit and possibly indulging in a game or two - in which I will no doubt get thoroughly trounced. To offset the nuisance value of my continued presence, I will bring biscuits.

    Love the R5 Astromech droids - they were always a favourite of mine, even if they weren't particularly reliable, and the painting on the cars and alien critters is breathtaking. The aliens kind of remind me of the cteature from "Outlander", which for those that haven't seen it, is Vikings versus a big-ass space monster with photo-luminescent lures.

    This just gets better and better and I can't wait to see what else comes of this meeting of minds. Truly, a new golden age of gaming starts here.

    Now, I've got this idea for a game...lol
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    1. Hi Jez, your like a steel vault with all the secrets you keep locked away ! ; )
      Look forward to meeting you at Salute next year.
      Glad you like the R5's even if they were unreliable, they were always a cool variation.
      Well spotted on the luminescent panels from Outlander ( love that film) and was the inspiration for the panels on the Pitilliad ( tunnel dweller)
      No idea for a game should ever be dismissed Jez and I'm Steve would be just as interested as me to hear your idea
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    2. "Trust not the chattering magpie, for he is a vain and foolish bird, his only concern the accumulation of shiny treasures and empty praise. Trust instead the canny crow, whose keen gaze discerns the true value of things and can be trusted to keep his beak shut." 😉

      I always preferred the less 'popular' SW figures, so whilst my brother has R2 and Luke, I had R5-D4 and Hammerhead (who is still one of the coolest aliens in Star Wars).

      I have to admit to liking your alien critters in all their variations - reminds me of the visual feast that is Dougal Dixon' "After Man" book, as well as the tv series "The Future is Wild" on which he was a consultant. In other words, they look like they've evolved to match their environment, rather than someone just cobbling together a beastie because rhey think it would look cool. And of course, they could be used as gargantua in a micro-scale armour game, fighting timy tanks and heavily-armoured mechs.

      As for the game, which one would you like? "It's Alive!", the game of competing mad scientists or possibly "Kittens for Cthulhu", which really needs no explanation - it's all in the title... 😁
    3. Wise words indeed Jez. I also like the more unusual characters in movies as I know humans so alien and robots are more interesting as it's something new.
      When I start a new alien I first think about its environment then the type of creature it is and its background before I even come up with the shape then build up in my mind the skeleton and muscle structure and skin and texture. Don't think about colours until the model is finished.
      Steve which game do you fancy doing first after the current batch ?
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    4. your shout Dave and Jed.... I`ll happily just hang on by the tail and enjoy the ride (assuming it has a tail.. could be a tale in that).
    5. I think that should by in Jez's court on which one, after all I just make a few models ; )
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    6. "We have such sights to show you..."

      *heh-heh-heh* 😨
    7. Ah a quote from my favourite set of horror films, now there's an idea for a game, keep your characters sanity as you journey through the twelve levels of hell, looking for an escape route
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    8. The Lament Configuration turned up in a game of Paranoia I once ran...things did not go well...lol

      Regarding game design, designing a popular and commercially successful game is a challenge, as Steve can no doubt confirm. You may have a fantastic concept, with a detailed and in-depth background, but if the game system sucks, people will lose interest in playing. Similarly, if the system is great, but the subject matter doesn't appeal to the majority, you have the same issue. This is probably why we get flurries of similar type games at the same time, as companies see what has been successful and bring out their own version.

      I think it takes a certain degree of courage to release something that's a bit different, that doesn't just blindly copy what has gone before and for that, I salute (pun unintended) the pair of you.

      The majority of my game 'concepts' (and there are quite a few of them) probably fall into a similar category. I may think that a tactical boardgame in which you muster your avian forces and Swiss Family Robinson technology (coconut bombs, bamboo blowpipes, etc.) to become "The Last Dodo" is a brilliant idea, but I'm probably in the minority. Although the idea of having one of your carefully placed units of Dodo coconut grenadiers being eaten by Portugese sailors does have a certain appeal... 😁
    9. You are correct that bringing something different to the table is a risk, a lot of people can't see what your trying to do or get the concept. Never been one to follow the crowd so this was a natural progression for me
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    10. {{I will bring biscuits.}}

      Oo what kind?
    11. Can't tell you...it's confidential. 😉
    12. Missed the sssshhh first Jez ! LOL
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    13. ROTFLMAOOoooooooooooooo!!!
  10. Ah man, I'm sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo looking forward to Salute 18!!! Not only do I get to have another chat with the (now) celebrity Mr Stone (I will of course see you at PAW Dave, something I'm very much looking forward to) but will finally get to game with Steve and Hillers, something I've wanted to do for ages! Best news EVER!!
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    1. Yes looking forward to PAW mate, are you there both days ?
      Salute for me couldn't get any better, and really happy it means so many people get to catch up with and game with Steve and Hils
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    2. Yes hoping for both days mate
    3. Awesome, as the Sunday is a lot quieter and more time to see bits
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  11. {{{In a recent article by Steve he talked about what gaming meant to him, and how the gaming was the most important part}}}}

    Hmmmmmm, I found what you said really interesting Dave, and it got me thinking hard (a couple of times when walking the hounds down the beach). Most of my life I have enjoyed gaming, with painting coming a firm second in importance. But something deeply fundamental has happened to my thinking this last... oooh, I dunno, this last year maybe? But certainly my entire attitude has shifted quite considerably of late. I don`t know if it was discovering a joy for painting Doctor Who and Judge Dredd models, and actually appreciating a really nice high standard aesthetic look, or the realisation that I can (if I really, really make the effort) still paint to reasonable standard myself; or whether it is seeing (and now owning) THE best painted miniatures I have ever owned in my life - i.e. these new Death Match jobbies. But for sure, I am finding myself massively appreciating high standard miniatures on my personal table top nowadays, in a way that would never have even interested me in the past... so much so in fact, that a sort of lifelong dream has recently re-surfaced in my mind once again... the desire (just ONCE in my life) to treat myself and commission some professional painting dude to paint me a pro painted historical collection, I dunno: World War II, Napoleonic, Ancient Romans and Britains, bla bla, the subject is not important, but what I am trying to say, is the fact that these thoughts of fielding an amazing game with a couple of exquisite miniature armies, suddenly appeals to me massively..... and I really mean MASSIVELY. Just for once in my life, I`d like to be proud s punch of playing with something wonderful. And if I don`t have to do it myself (shudders at the thought), even better hahahaha.
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    1. It's funny how our tastes and appreciations can change with time. When I first started it was all about the painting and the gaming was almost an after thought, in recent years I came to realise how much I missed the gaming element, this was DM came in a game that was quick and fun, didn't take a massive set up and could be competively priced. I've played more DM in the last year and a half than I managed to play of any other game than I had in the previous six years. Some would say that was due to play testing but it was because I was enjoying myself, like a rekindled flame I was having fun. Having seen a lot of other blogs recently where people having said I'm doing this because it's what I enjoy, this is what this hobby is truly about, not pleasing anyone else, having fun in what we do.
      I'll get off my soapbox now ! LOL
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    2. LOL, no no I totally get that, and get what you are saying. Interesting what you say about playing more DM over the last year and a half than anything else in six years. I`m e-x-a-c-t-l-y the same with my own Dungeon World and Battlechain (ABC): which I play endlessly more of with the wife, family, friends.. and club, than all the other bought games in my collection (DM and Imp Assault not included, as these are just super). I think we DO tent to enjoy our own creations more than shop bought: but boy oh boy, to make your own miniatures too... that`s gotta be living the dream my friend.
  12. There are a few nightmare days but the rest are fantastic, couldn't imagine doing anything else now, as I get so much joy from seeing people enjoy our items
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  13. Looking at your rusty volkswagon {just thinking of a bit of post apocalyptic Terminator gaming here} I was wondering, can you do the vehicle without the gunner sitting in the bonnet.. so its just the car, not the man?
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  14. Could certainly change one for you Hils, would you like it to have a bonnet ?
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  15. oh no, engine all exposed (probably missing even hehe)
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  16. The engine would be in the back on a VW but I don't see why we couldn't chuck in a V8 in the front, supercharged ?
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    1. gosh I forgot the engine is in the back of a VW lol. No, no empty would suit me better actually, as I want to hide street kids (living) in there.
  17. The other new one too, is perfect, and you do that wrecked one too don`t you? yah I`m looking or all of them, all rusty and all painted by par vous of course :-) Would say himself will pay ya`s when he`s over but I want them much sooner for a Terminator game idea I have (and want to post on TGC) so better you tell me what I owe and I`ll just post the lolly over :))
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  18. Will email the details as soon as I'm home for you Hils
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  19. the 2 payer Death Match deal comes with all that? it looks incredibl fun and super value for money. i think this is the one i will buy. are you at any shows near Manchester between now and xmas, as i could pick it up there if you do.
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    1. My next show is Crisis in Antwerp in November and then I'm not at any until Febuary.
      The postage rate is £5 on this item and will also include the new dice as well which would almost cost the same as the postage
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  20. For anyone wanting to ask about product or general questions you can contact me direct at wargamesterrainworkshop@yahoo.co.uk I will obviously still check and answer questions on the blog as well
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  21. thank you very much, that is very good value with the dice as well. like imperial assault im thinking the dice must really help turn the game into what it is. so i would definitely be happy with that. does the deal come with the new rules or the old ones?
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  22. You'll get the current set at the moment and as soon as the new version is finished you will be sent that as well, the main rules are predominately the same it's got a lot more fluff in the new version and better layout. All our existing customers will also be sent the updated version as well
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  23. wow, so we get eventually both, thats fantastic. thank you very much Dave.
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    1. No problem Luke, didn't want to be one of those companies that kept people paying for the same thing with slight alterations.
      When the first expansion comes out there will be two new races and at least one new beast included in there. Does this mean that existing DM players have to buy the expansion to be able to use them, no they will be sent the relevant parts to keep them up to date, they only need to get the expansion of they like the new element it brings to the game.
      With sending out both sets of the current rules it means people can start gaming straight away, while we finish off the improved version
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  24. what a fantastic deal from the nicest genuine people. I wish more companies acted like you.
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  25. We always think hobby first money second, unfortunately most companies work the other way round, and I like to be different ! LOL
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  26. Now that`s interesting. I might approach our club to invest in a bit of a bulk order, and make this a main joint participation game for all to enjoy and get involved in >> make a mini Christmas 2017 event out of the thing, with winner of a few week end linked tourneys taking away a 2 player set as a prize << . Maybe a couple of the 4 player deals, a few sets of those dice, and a couple of the `Release the Beast` deals. That should be enough to get us started I would imagine.

    I`ll approach the `council of four` (sounds grand, but its just the club organisers LMAO) and see what they think of the idea, and then get back to you properly via WTW.
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    1. Wow that sounds fantastic Dave, always find the hardest person to get round with clubs is the treasurer, unless he's the one who's spotted something he likes ! LOL
      If you want to run it as a tournament I'm sure we can come up with a trophy for you to give to the winner as well
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    2. How can I refuse an offer like that. jut gives me extra incentive when I bring it up at the next meet. I feel fairly confident I can push this through, then let the good old games begin yea? >> chuckles <<
    3. No problem Dave and as you say " Let The Games Begin . . . .
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  27. So, as everyone has been enthusing about your products, Dave, I thought I'd better pay the WTW site another visit and give it a thorough going over.

    Only one thing to say...Aztec Fire Demon - SOLD! Might have to wait until Salute, but it shall be mine. Just what I need for a certain Ghostbusters scenario I have in mind...
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    1. Glad you like it Jez, was after watching suicide squad and seeing Diablo morph, thought that's cool but why not go further especially after playing with coloured resins to make painting flames easier
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    2. I had a feeling that was the inspiration and have been mulling over the possible uses for translucent resin. How opaque is the resin? Could it be used for ghosts, for example, or ambush predators that fade into almost invisibility? I'm thinking along the lines of a big cat similar in size to a tiger, which rather than stripes for camouflage, has fur which refracts light...like a steroid-infused Cheshire Cat. That would be pretty cool if done in partially translucent resin, as though either fading in or out of sight.
    3. {{ Only one thing to say...Aztec Fire Demon - SOLD! }}


      Now THAT is a reaaaaally cool idea. OMG why didnt I see that image in my head too. I like it, I LIKE it.
    4. Depending on the colour ( blue and green being the strongest) and how much pigment you put in and how thick the cast is and you can get a really good see through effect. Clear resins would be ideal but destroy the moulds after one or two pours and some can be quite spongy when dry
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  28. I just quickly want to say, Hils and myself are frickin` delighted Dave and Sarah`s WTW game has is being favourably received, and I would like to point out that Dave (if he had his way) would just mumble a few words and feel embarrassed, and quickly talk about something else hahahaha: but Hils and I are PUSHING him and kinda encouraging him lots, to talk as openly here about his products as he likes. YES he`s a gamer, YES he`s a painter/modeller, and YES he runs a company, but I see all those things mingling seamlessly, which makes him a company ~ and a gamer with a heart and a passion for the hobby... something you don`t always see nowadays not any more. Dave is a full owner of this small and humble little TGC blog, and as such **looks to Dave a moment... and chinks a glass against his** we hope talk about Death Match and ANY OTHER Wargames Terrain Workshop products lots and lots, the more he does the happier we will be. In fact, I`ve decided to add the WTW logo to the top of the front page of TGC woohooo!! Meh, why not, it truly deserves to be there :-)
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    1. Um err yeah cool! Weathers nice today ! LOL
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    2. I always find it humbling when people like our stuff Steve, as everything we make is stuff we thought that would be cool to use in our games we play, when other people say that's cool I really struggle knowing what to comment. I've even had people say I hope you don't mind I'm using it for this ! Why would I mind if I've inspired someone for their own gaming
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    3. *smiles softly*

      well, you converted us, most our club, all our fam` and friends: its always easy to like a good product, easier to love a great one, and a bonus if the guy making it all is a sound `geezer`
    4. Thank you Hils, greatest reward I could ask for in this business
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  29. Thinking about my next article, would you like to see how a model goes from concept to finished item in terms of sculpting with step by step guide ?
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    1. Yes please, Dave. Having had a go at the sculpting aspect myself (with variable results...lol), I have to admit to being more intrested in how a sculpted model goes from a one-off to a production cast, but as I find the whole process fascinating, from design concept to finished piece would be very cool. 👍
    2. No problem Jez, a lot of the time i wonder how much people are interested in that side, so thought it was worth asking people's opinion
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    3. I still love and marvel at your Dino Judges Jez. me and Hils (or Hils and I if you prefer lol) are going to get these out of their custom box and give them another whirl around the table soon, we have some ideas (which just wont seem to go away) for game which will feature these alternative reality 2000AD Judges.
  30. Gaah!! so sorry, was mega busy all day today and literally only just spotted this. yeah count me in please :-)
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    1. No problem Steve, already in progress and should have it finished early next week
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  31. I want to see this please. Especially as I want this game and learn all about it and this is the official place to come to hear first hand how its done properly and all the new developments, it feels like when you learn all the codex for warhammer 40 or something and you get all that helpful extra background and detail right from the source all for free. so please, so it would be very nice to see how you do it, thank you for everything.
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    1. No problem Luke, happy to show the development and how to's as well and always happy to answer questions
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  32. Dave, I think it would be fascinating to see how you go about creating your masters from concept to the finished models. You definitely have my keen interest if you do choose to write anything about this side of things. I think it would be extraordinarily insightful to learn about ~ as good Luke says, from the actual source.
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    1. No problem Dave happy to do so. My biggest problem is second guessing myself on what people want to read or see
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